I'll start. me to 12 year old son heading out the door to the video shop 800 yards away.. "How many jackets have you got on?" "A hoodie and a fleece" he says, omitting the winter ski gloves and the buff. "right; you expecting a storm between here and the video shop then?" "Dad, it's freezing out" and with that he went me to the Ikea Delivery men: "Can you put it upstairs?" "I'll check with the driver.......No sorry mate, we're not insured for that. Had a lot of complaints about peoples floors being damaged" me to myself, I'm not your mate you miserable bugger. Me and a 14 year old wrestled it up instead.