Got my Ice Adventure Folder Yesterday

[stearman65]

I hope you have many happy hours with your trike. Please heed the advice given regarding sorting the brakes and some form of foot retention system.

Shortly after I received my trike I had a pedal cross threaded which came off (with foot attached) at a very insignificant speed (similar to your video) which resulted in my foot striking the ground and the front suspension arm striking the rear of my leg. The bruising was significant and I dread to think of the potential damage that may have occurred if I was traveling at 15+ mph.

I booked my cycle mechanic for a visit the first fine day he has free, hopefully the brakes are an easy fix although one wonders what the wear pattern will be with them being reversed, might have knackered the shoes?

 

[midlife]

Couldn't find any pictures of the death trap cleats I wore, so I've done a sketch.
View attachment 145493

Are you the so called approved Ice agent who is bombarding me with emails???

Shoe Plates.....those look like Cliff Peters, knocked up by himself along with wheel carriers.

Shaun

 

[Mr Magoo]

I booked my cycle mechanic for a visit the first fine day he has free, hopefully the brakes are an easy fix although one wonders what the wear pattern will be with them being reversed, might have knackered the shoes?

The SA are single leading shoe.design and have tapered leading edges
During removal and inspection for possible damage?
If your unlucky and your expert discovers damage or adverse wear
You have to replace the entire SA backplate lever arm and brake shoes
To avoid any further price shocks
Have you pre checked the current prices and availability for these none lever arm brakes which are only suitable for thru-bolt axles used by recumbent trike makers ? You mentioned the axle bolt fixings had been messed up by previous owners . Suggest you check the axle surface
It should not be bone dry but lightly greased with no signs of any tram lines
If they don't slide out ......by hand pressure ...they could be bent !
....whilst it's all apart check the bearings (two per wheel).for rumbling
They are sealed for life ....which really means ......you cannot service
Only choice is to simply replace
Note some SA brake drums can be affected by over heating and become slightly oval ....the first signs are juddering and kickback through the steering
ICE have issued to a few carefully selected key dealers
a special tool to measure any run-out of the steel liners
Hope that helps as a guide

 

[SatNavSaysStraightOn]

I putting my Moderator's hat on here - will you lot please pack it in and be more polite and friendly. I don't care what the history is between you all, the rudeness, bickering and downright public school boy responses are not needed or appreciated and if you don't pack it in, I will ban the member with an next unfriendly response from the thread, and anyone else after that matter.

 

[stearman65]

Up-date on the brake situation, my bike mechanic is booked for Friday assuming fine weather.
Incidentally I seem to remember someone mentioned the front derailleur cable wasn't installed correctly, whether this was from the original pictures or the subsequent pictures from my AV show? I've had another look at the manual & it looks like the cable is installed correctly through the top hole in the boom, the only thing I can see wrong is the missing noodle? See attached pic & manual sections.

 

[Mr Magoo]

The noodle is not missing .
Its already attached to your existing cable line
However it has not been passed positioned through the boom tube correctly
It should exit out of the boom top hole and slightly protude
Resulting in a smooth unrestricted movement
As shown in the right hand picture of the ICE notes you have uploaded
Ignore and you will suffer from eratic shifting and premature cable failure as its rubs onto the exposed metal hole
It probably explains why the chain has derailed on numerous occasions
The clue for the last statement is the missing *paint on the crankarm side of the painted bittom bracket
A simple process to rectify allow 5 mins.
The bike mechanic will have to reset the gear cable length and trim the A + B stop screws
*ICE Adventure Touch up paint kits are around sixteen pounds Plus PP

 

[summerdays]

I agree with Mr Magoo whilst not knowing the system. Your photo looks more like the photo on the left rather than right as the end of the noodle doesn't protrude through the hole. On a normal 2 wheeled bike when the noodle doesn't sit properly it normally damages the noodle. Whether the noodle used here is a standard item or specialized due being of a different size I wouldn't know. Also the cable may as well be replaced at the same time in case it has been rubbing against the metalwork for a while. If you are having a mechanic look at it he may as well do a new cables throughout I would think?

 

[stearman65]

I agree with Mr Magoo whilst not knowing the system. Your photo looks more like the photo on the left rather than right as the end of the noodle doesn't protrude through the hole. On a normal 2 wheeled bike when the noodle doesn't sit properly it normally damages the noodle. Whether the noodle used here is a standard item or specialized due being of a different size I wouldn't know. Also the cable may as well be replaced at the same time in case it has been rubbing against the metalwork for a while. If you are having a mechanic look at it he may as well do a new cables throughout I would think?

The picture on the left shows the cable being installed, on the right the noodle has been fitted. On mine there is no noodle, why, god only knows , maybe whoever installed it forgot it. It'll get sorted when the mechanic comes.

 

[Mr Magoo]

The picture on the left shows the cable being installed, on the right the noodle has been fitted. On mine there is no noodle, why, god only knows , maybe whoever installed it forgot it. It'll get sorted when the mechanic comes.

The noodle is present and attached to the control cable inner and outer as clearly shown in the colour picture that you uploaded
I will attempt to help you ID otherwise you will waste money obtaining the correct part .
Follow the black outer gear cable that runs from the handlebar zone and along the cruciform then onwards past the crank arm and pedal
ADVICE or ( Safety warning ) should you be tempted to test ride without the reccomended pedals you may snag your heal on the ill fitting cable
Back to the plot .....you will discover a small aluminium/chrome tube which currently disapears into the lower boom tube .
That is in fact the NOODLE referred to
Its exactly the same as the pair of curved noodle tubes attached as guides to your SA brake system .

Previous owners and hidden life ???
If a bike is offered cheap and the vendor only accepts cash or wants to sell OFF ebay .
Alarms bells should ring
Was it supplied by a friend call David Nosurname at the local pub
Sometimes its a false alarm and by asking a few simple questions you can grab a real bargain
The good news very few recumbents have been stolen (if nicked you would get a report by eagle eyed forum members )
I suspect your machine popped up on Gumtree last year
The vendor stated ,when questioned, that it started life at a special needs school in London
So at that point it probably had 60 previous owners
It was removed from service needing a major sort out and sold to a staff member
Who quickly sold it on to a teaching pal based in London
The trike was relocated and stored in Lincolnshire ??? due to lack of space in a shared flat
Eventually sold ........last year to who knows but you can probably guess
If the above is accurate info
It explains why your Adventure has such a basic spec which is very rare
and picked up unexpected wear and tear to the seat cover and other elements of the trike
The serial number could be used to confirm the first owner and validate the above info or story
Hope that helps and by the weekend your out riding in a safe manner .

 

[classic33]

The noodle is present and attached to the control cable inner and outer as clearly shown in the colour picture that you uploaded
I will attempt to help you ID otherwise you will waste money obtaining the correct part .
Follow the black outer gear cable that runs from the handlebar zone and along the cruciform then onwards past the crank arm and pedal
ADVICE or ( Safety warning ) should you be tempted to test ride without the reccomended pedals you may snag your heal on the ill fitting cable
Back to the plot .....you will discover a small aluminium/chrome tube which currently disapears into the lower boom tube .
That is in fact the NOODLE referred to
Its exactly the same as the pair of curved noodle tubes attached as guides to your SA brake system .

Previous owners and hidden life ???
If a bike is offered cheap and the vendor only accepts cash or wants to sell OFF ebay .
Alarms bells should ring
Was it supplied by a friend call David Nosurname at the local pub
Sometimes its a false alarm and by asking a few simple questions you can grab a real bargain
The good news very few recumbents have been stolen (if nicked you would get a report by eagle eyed forum members )
I suspect your machine popped up on Gumtree last year
The vendor stated ,when questioned, that it started life at a special needs school in London
So at that point it probably had 60 previous owners
It was removed from service needing a major sort out and sold to a staff member
Who quickly sold it on to a teaching pal based in London
The trike was relocated and stored in Lincolnshire ??? due to lack of space in a shared flat
Eventually sold ........last year to who knows but you can probably guess
If the above is accurate info
It explains why your Adventure has such a basic spec which is very rare
and picked up unexpected wear and tear to the seat cover and other elements of the trike
The serial number could be used to confirm the first owner and validate the above info or story
Hope that helps and by the weekend your out riding in a safe manner .

The magic of serial numbers.

 

[SatNavSaysStraightOn]

The picture on the left shows the cable being installed, on the right the noodle has been fitted. On mine there is no noodle, why, god only knows , maybe whoever installed it forgot it. It'll get sorted when the mechanic comes.

I would concur with the others on this. I think the noodle is still there, just that it is there below the boom or inside it and that the entire thing has not been pushed far enough through from below. That silver section after the black cable outer should be inside the boom completely protruding very slightly through the top hole. It's suspect a good wiggle once the cable it detached from the front derailleur will get it through as needed.
This will mean you have to much gear cable available to the derailleur once resolved and as such the derailleur won't work until the cable length is shortened to the correct length. Done carefully you shouldn't have to reindex the front gears, just try to get the gear cable to exactly the correct length once it had been passed through the boom correctly.

 

[stearman65]

The magic of serial numbers.

The email I received advising me of this post had a mass of text about the possible history of the trike. For some reason it doesn't show when I switch to the site view. It just says "the magic of serial numbers"??? has it been redacted? if it has why??? If it has, why isn't there a moderators note to that effect???

 

[classic33]

The email I received advising me of this post had a mass of text about the possible history of the trike. For some reason it doesn't show when I switch to the site view. It just says "the magic of serial numbers"??? has it been redacted? if it has why??? If it has, why isn't there a moderators note to that effect???

It's been quoted by myself.

 

[stearman65]

It's been quoted by myself.

Do you mean like a PM.?

 

[shouldbeinbed]

The email I received advising me of this post had a mass of text about the possible history of the trike. For some reason it doesn't show when I switch to the site view. It just says "the magic of serial numbers"??? has it been redacted? if it has why??? If it has, why isn't there a moderators note to that effect???

Classic 33 has quoted a prior post of Mr Magoo's and commented himself "the magic of serial numbers"

I don't know as I don't have people on ignore but I imagine from your previous comments Mr M is one of several that you have set to ignore and I would suggest that this may have some impact on what you are seeing on-site.

With my moderators hat on I can assure you that there is no moderator input or alteration to that post.

(moderator hat off again)

If you de-ignore Mr Magoo does that give you the same view of the post that the rest of us have, with both Mr M's quote and C33's comment visible.

I am not by any means a trike officianado (sp?) but the latest comments Mr M is making cannot be described as aggressive or hostile or any of the negatives you have perceived previously. They are constructive, aimed at helping and advising you and have assisted me working out what and where trike noodles are

As an impartial observer on this thread may I suggest you reconsider your ignoring of people with the experience to assist you in your quest to make a safe and roadworthy vehicle, as you are missing out on valuable advice and assistance, freely given and which is being confirmed by other posters with whom you do not appear to have an issue.