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I've been very pleased with my 40 litre classic backrollers. They were new this summer but have had quite a few wet days, some very wet, and didn't let a drop in.
I’m looking at the Ortleib back rollers but what size would do? Don’t want to get too small. Would the 40l be sufficient for a European tour, not off the beaten track?
Anything else worth considering? The Overboard looked OK but only in a smaller size.
If you do go for Ortleibs Tim (they are good) make sure that you don't end up with oold stock QL2 hooks - the things with the piggin' inserts that keep dropping out. After years of adverse comments (countered by some who insisted on worshipping everything Orrtlieb did) the German maestros finally hit on the obvious answer - make the inserts slide in from the side, rather than slide in/out from the bottom, exactly in line with the forces of removing the panniers from the rack.
And so, lo, the QL2.1 was born.
I bought a new set of hook/handle assemblies for my bikepacker Pluses, which are otherwise excellent. Have had them 15 years and despite some tough use they still look pretty much new.
How do you think it has changed? For the worse?There is no guarantee that the materials used in the manufacture of new panniers are the same as those used 20 years ago.
Having used other panniers before Ortliebs I'm not an Ortlieb fan. There are better designed pannier on the market.
Yes, agree. I have front roller c!assics and bike packer rears and find the bike packers way easier. This might be partly because the rears are the plus material which i think is worth the extra** as it is both lighter and more flexible/easier to wrestle with, whilst i understand actually being stronger. ** May not be the case with the front bikepacker pluses, called the "sport" or something. A pretty fearsome price for small front panniers these days, so might stick with my front roller classics which also serve as occasional rear panniers, they are great around town for holding my heavy D lock. Don't think you can go far wrong with ortliebs.I have both rollers and bike packer classics and I find the bike packers easier to open and close than the rollers.
Mike