Ribble cycles

[shadow master]

I'm vaguely curious why you think the age of a design has any bearing over its quality. Manufacturers don't make radical changes regularly as the bicycle frame is a conservative and simple thing (unless you're Mike Burrows or Graeme Obree).

Ribble have found a winning design with the Gran Fondo (and their winter frame, which wouldn't have looked out of place 30 years ago and certainly isn't moulded), so why hack about changing it? It's not like it's going to be ridden in the pro peloton, where chat about the latest aero improvements or whatever is largely marketing gubbins designed to flog expensive bikes to the easily impressed.

Define "quality" build quality there OK,is the ride performance quality as good and efficient as a modern carbon frame with the latest technology,no way.all monocoque frames come from moulds,the small list of changes to frames I've listed above,make the argument frames haven't changed absolutely ridiculous....early carbon frames were aluminium proportions bb,headstock,etc,now the alloy ones have followed carbon proportions! I'm glad I've had the benefit of visiting the factories in the far east,I can tell many people haven't!

 

[AndyRM]

The Gran Fondo has pretty much all of the attributes you listed, oversized tubing, heft BB shell and head-tube, it's not one of the skinny lugged efforts from the 90s.

I'm really not sure what your point is to be honest.

 

[Deleted User]

In simple terms, as a 'weekend warrior' looking for an upgrade would this be a worthwhile purchase?
Cheers.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

The Gran Fondo has pretty much all of the attributes you listed, oversized tubing, heft BB shell and head-tube, it's not one of the skinny lugged efforts from the 90s.

I'm really not sure what your point is to be honest.

He doesn't either.

I mean carbon moulds that are 7-8 years out of date,old technology!

A carbon mould is an inanimate object, and last I checked if you stored one for 30 years (let say Pinarello F8 mould) then brought it out, it would still produce the same frame with up to date weaves/layup.

That to me, is a rather cool thought. Id love a now retro shape/new tech F8 as a retirement pressie somewhere around 2050

 

[MickeyBlueEyes]

I'm not saying it's not an ok deal but it's not the bike in the picture that you are buying. The one in the picture is just over £2k. For £1400 you get a trimmed down version of this.

 

[bpsmith]

I considered a Ribble when looking fir my first bike. I didn't buy for exactly the reason @MickeyBlueEyes states. I fancied the look and spec of the bike pictures on their main page at the time, which had no correlation to the price stated next to it. When I got to the real price, I compared and bought something else.

 

[Cuchilo]

Ive gone through the list of components and built up the bike you actually get for your £1399

Di2 included !

 

[Drago]

I mean carbon moulds that are 7-8 years out of date,old technology!

Eh? Current carbon moulding technology is pretty much the same as GRP moulding technology. The only real improvements in the last 30 years is the understanding of how laying the weave gives different characteristics, and the varying methods for forming the cavities within the frame, oh, and techniques that improve production time and cost rather than the frame itself. The only thing "old" about the frame is its style, and even that's highly debatable.

Stand in a carbon fibre workshop and you couldnt even point to the autoclave, much less operate it, yet you feel able to lecture to us about carbon technology?

I'm glad I worked in a CF workshop (my brother in-laws business, worked OR for him a few years back) and not just visited a factory. I visited a pet shop the other day and by your reasoning I'm now a Vet.

 

[outlash]

Looks like I should embarrassed buying a Genesis Day One with it's steel frame and hub gears.....

Anyway, yes that is an awful lot of bike for the money!


Tony.

 

[shadow master]

He doesn't either.


A carbon mould is an inanimate object, and last I checked if you stored one for 30 years (let say Pinarello F8 mould) then brought it out, it would still produce the same frame with up to date weaves/layup.

That to me, is a rather cool thought. Id love a now retro shape/new tech F8 as a retirement pressie somewhere around 2050

No that's incorrect!The mould can't automatically change shape to increase head stock and bb shell size and to include internal cables,yes you could use a later carbon weave,but in an old shape mould what's the point?

 

[shadow master]

Ive gone through the list of components and built up the bike you actually get for your £1399

Di2 included !

Indeed the marketing is a bit questionable as well!

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

No that's incorrect!The mould can't automatically change shape to increase head stock and bb shell size and to include internal cables,yes you could use a later carbon weave,but in an old shape mould what's the point?

Why would you change the mould?

 

[Drago]

Quality = fitness for meeting the customers needs.

If you want carbon and electronic shifting but oly have £1400 it it fits your needs admirably.

 

[shadow master]

Looks like I should embarrassed buying a Genesis Day One with it's steel frame and hub gears.....

Anyway, yes that is an awful lot of bike for the money!


Tony.

Not at all its not the material that's in question,The genesis brand use a high quality steel frame,are they the same as a halfords Apollo steel frame?they must be according to people on here,all carbon frames are the same apparently,nothing has changed in 100 years apparently,you can store a mould for 30 years,and when you reuse it,a frame pops out that's bang up to date????must be the Houdini factory!

 

[shadow master]

Why would you change the mould?

I refer the gentleman to the answer I gave previously