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vickster

Legendary Member
Do you really think most people buying the Ribble would notice, they may never have ridden any other sort of carbon frame. As long as it fits, they'll enjoy their bike because it's new, shiny, has good components, has a good paint job

I'm sure my Pave is an old frame but that doesn't make it any less enjoyable to ride, as I've never ridden anything else in carbon and I know nothing about materials, engineering - I like something that appeals to me aesthetically and is comfortable for me

And I'd much rather own it, than any new Specialized/Trek/Giant which are everywhere, generally dully styled or coloured, and importantly, I am supporting a UK-based company (wherever the parts are made)

I don't do Shimano groupsets, and few manufacturers provide SRAM on stock bikes, so have to build from the frame
 

shadow master

Well-Known Member
Do you really think most people buying the Ribble would notice, they may never have ridden any other sort of carbon frame. As long as it fits, they'll enjoy their bike because it's new, shiny, has good components, has a good paint job

I'm sure my Pave is an old frame but that doesn't make it any less enjoyable to ride, as I've never ridden anything else in carbon and I know nothing about materials, engineering - I like something that appeals to me aesthetically and is comfortable for me

And I'd much rather own it, than any new Specialized/Trek/Giant which are everywhere, generally dully styled or coloured, and importantly, I am supporting a UK-based company (wherever the parts are made)
No, if you haven't ridden anything else how would you know?I thought my ford escort was good....but I hadn't driven a BMW....yes ignorance is bliss! Lots of people buy things that are pleasing to the eye,but that doesn't mean it performs well,or it was the best thing to buy at the time.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
You'll know pretty quick if you're riding one of the bottom BB standards because you'll be replacing bearings where previously most riders probably never had . Not all technology is good, beneficial, or provides an actual improvement.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
No, if you haven't ridden anything else how would you know?I thought my ford escort was good....but I hadn't driven a BMW....yes ignorance is bliss! Lots of people buy things that are pleasing to the eye,but that doesn't mean it performs well,or it was the best thing to buy at the time.

It performs perfectly well enough for me, I'm not a professional cyclist. I typically ride no more than 50 miles at about 12-14mph. A good looking bike that I want to ride is much preferred by me to some ugly matt black thing from Specialized even if it is meant to be the best bike ever made.

Let people buy what they want, by all means give advice based on your knowledge and experience but respect their decision
(maybe try to modify the high almighty, condescending tone ;) )

I've driven a 3L Alpina, I still prefer my Skoda ;)
 

shadow master

Well-Known Member
You'll know pretty quick if you're riding one of the bottom BB standards because you'll be replacing bearings where previously most riders probably never had . Not all technology is good, beneficial, or provides an actual improvement.

It performs perfectly well enough for me, I'm not a professional cyclist. I typically ride no more than 50 miles at about 12-14mph. A good looking bike that I want to ride is much preferred by me to some ugly matt black thing from Specialized even if it is meant to be the best bike ever made.

Let people buy what they want, by all means give advice based on your knowledge and experience but respect their decision
(maybe try to modify the high almighty, condescending tone ;) )

I've driven a 3L Alpina, I still prefer my Skoda ;)
I don't think my tone is high and mighty....but I'm utterly flabbergasted by people who give there opinions on a bike that have only had one bike!and think bikes haven't changed in a century...I think my standpoint gives a more balanced overview..The Ribble range is relatively good value,some savings due to no dealer network etc...but not all carbon frames are the same, the frames are not the latest stiffest etc..and are from generic open moulds from the far east on tooling that was paid for years ago....hence the prices... But they are not the be all and end all of bikes.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
look at the spec, it's very (completely) different to the pictured bike - it does have Di2 though if that's what you are after! Canyon and Cube make good quality 'cheap' bikes - might be worth a look at their Di2 offerings.
Very ugly wheels in the picture though :whistle:

I have specced the bike as I'd be happy with it (without the ugly wheels) and it is £1,402.49 (+£2.50 for a 100mm stem)...however I wouldn't buy it as I can't have a 38cm bar! And I don't need anymore bikes I'm not allowed to ride!
 

vickster

Legendary Member
I don't think my tone is high and mighty....but I'm utterly flabbergasted by people who give there opinions on a bike that have only had one bike!and think bikes haven't changed in a century...I think my standpoint gives a more balanced overview..The Ribble range is relatively good value,some savings due to no dealer network etc...but not all carbon frames are the same, the frames are not the latest stiffest etc..and are from generic open moulds from the far east on tooling that was paid for years ago....hence the prices... But they are not the be all and end all of bikes.
I have 4 bikes and had quite a few more before. They are all very different but enjoy riding each depending on what I want on that day
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I'm currently at 7 bikes, plus one under construction.

As aforementioned, I've also first hand experience of CF construction.

Oh, and I've got a 15 year old pick up with 33" muds a 2" lift and wouldn't touch a BMW with yours.
 

shadow master

Well-Known Member
You'll know pretty quick if you're riding one of the bottom BB standards because you'll be replacing bearings where previously most riders probably never had . Not all technology is good, beneficial, or provides an actual improvement.
Yes I can appreciate what your saying,the bb 30,wide shell types etc...are certainly stiffer utilising the bigger axles.....but the old type bb and outboard type seem to last better and with no creaking!some people would say its a trade off....performance vs durability./
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
Out of interest I recently test rode an LBS brand bike that I think is an "open mould" frame painted up with fancy colours. It was very light indeed and handled well but no better than my Roubaix SL4. However the big problem for me was that my heels kept striking the chainstays, which were quite straight from BB to dropout rather than curved in to accommodate folk like me with turned-out feet. When I mentioned this to the shopkeeper he retorted: "Oh, that's because you've got your pedals set up wrong."

Well, s'cuse me... I've spent about five years getting my pedals set up and enjoying them so I'm more inclined to think that the frame could do with a small redesign. It just underlines the importance of test-riding a bike before you splash the cash.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
If indeed it brings any performance gain. The ally framed wibble I tried last year flexed visibly at the frame, and the Octalink BB and cranks were comfortably stiffer than the surrounding frame structure.

It's as much about fashion and parting the gullible "must-have-the-latest" crew from their money as it is about actually going any quicker. After all, if performance improvements were what we genuinely desired we'd all be on diets and taking our training a lot more seriously, as that's where the gains are made.
 

shadow master

Well-Known Member
Doesnt answer the question.

Why could the mould for the F8 not be used in 30 years time to produce a frame using the tech of 2045
Let's say the tech of 2045 has resulted in the bb shell being 80mm x 120mm as the optimum size,and the bottom head stock needing to be 2.5", all completley new dimensions because of lower resin carbons being used.The 30 year old mould can't change shape,yes you could use the the new carbon in the old mould but its not suitable,carbon is not carbon,I know its a material people don't tend to question,the word carbon means quality doesn't it????developers of frames 30 years ago didn't see what was coming,and I don't believe we can now!
 

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Let's say the tech of 2045 has resulted in the bb shell being 80mm x 120mm as the optimum size,and the bottom head stock needing to be 2.5", all completley new dimensions because of lower resin carbons being used.The 30 year old mould can't change shape,yes you could use the the new carbon in the old mould but its not suitable,carbon is not carbon,I know its a material people don't tend to question,the word carbon means quality doesn't it????developers of frames 30 years ago didn't see what was coming,and I don't believe we can now!
Those who refurb/rebuild 80s frames seem to do ok now, whats the real difference?
 
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