[QUOTE 4692367, member: 43827"]You mention your speed coming crashing down and a couple of questions come to mind.
What sort of distances do you ride and are they racing or commuting/leisure/fitness miles. You will no doubt lose a bit of speed moving to a more relaxed geometry bike, so that when racing or chasing Strava segment records it might be important, but on a 10-20 mile commuting or leisure ride you will likely lose less than a few minutes so probably not that important.
There are so many more options than a full tourer that might suit your needs and your budget.[/QUOTE]
I do distances of anything from 20-100 miles, I like to have a good average speed and go reasonably fast uphill and downhill but I don't do serious racing. Mostly I want to travel decent distances at a good average speed and enjoy the process. The bike I have been considering is a secondhand Sacaren tour road bike, which looks to be more on the road bike side than the touring side