Jimidh
Veteran
- Location
- Midlothian
No it’s not dangerous unless you can’t turn your head to look - that’s the only reason to have a mirror.I can't imagine my commute without my mirror
It's bloody dangerous without it
No it’s not dangerous unless you can’t turn your head to look - that’s the only reason to have a mirror.I can't imagine my commute without my mirror
It's bloody dangerous without it
No it’s not dangerous unless you can’t turn your head to look - that’s the only reason to have a mirror.
Yes unless you are physically incapable of turning your head then you don’t need a mirror - if you want one fine but your not any more or less in danger if you have / don’t have one.I;m sorry, but are you suggesting my commute isn't dangerous without it ?
Yes unless you are physically incapable of turning your head then you don’t need a mirror - if you want one fine but your not any more or less in danger if you have / don’t have one.
One last try to get clear answers: why's it matter if there's overtaking cars? Would you turn right without shoulder-checking if some nobber's overtaking?I'm using the mirror to assess when to shoulder check, I find it useful to see what is potentially overtaking rather than mutiple shoulder checks.
Oh go on, I'll bite: what do you define as "well positioned"? It sounds an awful lot like fairly high and so far out to one side (to avoid the rider's body masking a small car) that it's going to bounce like hell and get clonked by posts/barriers that are even slightly narrow - at least on a non-recumbent.
Perhaps you could come and sort out the mirrors on my van then. Two big wing mirrors with wide angle thingies on, and I have blind-spots such that I have to be really careful pulling out of junctions or changing lanes. No such problems on the bike with no mirrors.A well positioned mirror will show everything behind you. It can't magically conceal a car.
Perhaps you could come and sort out the mirrors on my van then. Two big wing mirrors with wide angle thingies on, and I have blind-spots such that I have to be really careful pulling out of junctions or changing lanes. No such problems on the bike with no mirrors.
I actually think that having a mirror and not shoulder checking is actually dangerous. Apart from the fact that a mirror gives a very restrictive view it also gives no indication to following vehicles that you have seen them and no indication that you may be about to perform a manoeuvre.
It felt like you were implying that those who have tried and dismissed mirrors had misused them. The mirror has to be so far out that the reflected line of sight clears the rider's arm, shoulder and hip. Mirrors on extension arms nearly all get criticised in reviews for various types of distortion, which was my experience too. Shorter flat handlebars like yours may well help - only my folding bike has that, with porters and drops on my most-used bikes.It doesn't need to be high but it does need to be far enough out. I find directly attached to the end of fairly short (flat) handlebars is fine and I'm not slim. Yes, it does make them annoying as I said in my earlier post; that's the trade-off (although I've never had an issue with bouncing).
If you are going to have them further in so that they don't give you a good picture of what's behind you then why bother with them at all? I've found having them further in makes them worse than useless - it becomes quicker and more reliable just to look behind me.
Edit: Re - 'I'll bite': my post wasn't intended to be bait.
Do you mean the potential to stab the wearer in the face when they have another one of those falls that seem to happen so often to people using that headwear?A work colleague had a tiny mirror on a stalk attatched to his helmet. Seemed quite a neat ide with some considerable potential.
Do you mean the potential to stab the wearer in the face when they have another one of those falls that seem to happen so often to people using that headwear?