Shoved off bike by double decker bus !!!

[screenman]

Too much of a generalization and I do not think the terms used were fitting with the quality of this forum.

If you put 2 adults on a bus the cost must rise, pure economics. Have you any idea how much it cost to run a bus service?

I have no problem paying for my kids to be taken to school, I do not expect those without children to subsidise my kids any more than they already do.

I am sure there are council workers on this forum who are offended by your remarks.

Of course just my opinion.

 

[gambatte]

Offending council workers? If you reread his comments were about councils, not specifically those who work for them? But in my experience, if his description was of council services generally, its pretty accurate.

 

[screenman]

Surely it is the workers that make the council. For sure we have some things about the council I do not agree with, and they also have many good points. Trouble is people want something often without paying for it, such as the bus service.

I respect the guys opinion, but on an open forum like ours then name calling should not be there.

 

[400bhp]

Sorry but what has any of these comments got to do with gbb's situation?

 

[gbb]

I think people are getting ahead of themselves.

We've no idea what this cretin has told his employers. Nor do we know whether insurance will cover one of their employees deliverately damaging someones property (how much damage was caused by the bus and how much by the cretin when he threw it).

Let's wait for gbb to get somewhere with this and lets all hope it's a positive outcome.

Several valid points here, and it will cause complications re repairs and who's going to pay.
He has apparently reported it to his employers (or they've heard via another party)...i dont know what he's told them.
The vehicle insurance (i would imagine) will stand back because i have said i consider most of the damage was done when he threw the bike. It may be the insurers will run a mile. It may not. Who knows.

For the record, the vehicle (and i assume the driver) are not council employees. I suspect the council pay the bus company for the service.

 

[Camgreen]

The bus company must have some sort of public liability insurance though gbb?

 

[Black Sheep]

I agree with this


Why? IMHO insurance should put you back in the position you were in before the incident, including covering any expenses incurred by you when putting you back in this position, but expecting to be compensated as well is a bit far.

My opinion with compensation is indeed it should put you back in the position you were in before, in this case that is the bike back to a good serviceable and cosmetic condition, the cost of which a bike shop would be able to assess.

were he knocked from the bike and could not commute by bike to work for a month or so (random length of time) due to an injury then I'd expect the cost of transport to be contributed to if not covered (if the injured party commutes by bike to catch a train only the biked part of the journey should be covered as he already pays for the train on a normal day)

my stance on this is based on a friend who had to push her case through the courts, having been hit from behind while driving, by a younger driver who was trying to reach for a bottle of coke he had dropped into his footwell that rolled behind the brake pedal and prevented him from braking, this gave her back problems at the start of the summer holiday with a 7 year old daughter who's a wheel chair user and a 5 year old son, both of whom need lifting in and out of the car every time she needs to go anywhere - she ended up hiring a nanny just to help with lifting them!

the court decided that costs were covered by the other driver's insurance

so, i'm not against compensation, what I am against is "you caused my accident, money please" and the texts and phone calls I keep getting about claiming for an accident i've not had.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

+1

This driver should not be on the road. Keep us updated.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

+1

Well frankly that's a stupid, ignorant and pointless comment that ranks alongside the usual daily fail ramblings about cyclists and road tax for its irrelevance and inaccurate prejudice.

No need for it at all.

I know a couple of cycling English bus drivers just to shatter your illusions and add to your disbelief.

 

[gbb]

And so it slowly dawns on you...it may not be possible to prove exactly what he did.

email back from the company, the driver of course has given a considerably different sequence of events. This is where witnesses are so vital, and although i have one, it may not help me on the following grounds...

The driver nudged forward to the point where he unbalanced me and i fell off. The driver may well say i just threw myself on the floor. If my witness wasnt aware of any movement of the bus, there's nothing in that that will help me.
The driver may well say he 'placed' my bike at the side of the road, and i'm making it all up. If my witness didnt actually see him throw it, again, its not much help.

Still waiting for some feedback from the police (its early yet) and we'll just see how it goes.

 

[mcshroom]

My opinion with compensation is indeed it should put you back in the position you were in before, in this case that is the bike back to a good serviceable and cosmetic condition, the cost of which a bike shop would be able to assess.

were he knocked from the bike and could not commute by bike to work for a month or so (random length of time) due to an injury then I'd expect the cost of transport to be contributed to if not covered (if the injured party commutes by bike to catch a train only the biked part of the journey should be covered as he already pays for the train on a normal day)

my stance on this is based on a friend who had to push her case through the courts, having been hit from behind while driving, by a younger driver who was trying to reach for a bottle of coke he had dropped into his footwell that rolled behind the brake pedal and prevented him from braking, this gave her back problems at the start of the summer holiday with a 7 year old daughter who's a wheel chair user and a 5 year old son, both of whom need lifting in and out of the car every time she needs to go anywhere - she ended up hiring a nanny just to help with lifting them!

the court decided that costs were covered by the other driver's insurance

so, i'm not against compensation, what I am against is "you caused my accident, money please" and the texts and phone calls I keep getting about claiming for an accident i've not had.

Pretty much how I see it. I just get annoyed by the 'where there's blame, there's a claim' philosophy that far too many people in this country have adopted where they basically look for free money rather than due restitution.

 

[2Loose]

I really hope this works out for you gbb, sounded like an open & shut case until I realized that you only have one witness and they didn't see everything.

I hope the bus cctv shows more detail and everything works out for you.

 

[Jezston]

Have you tried tracking down the school the kids were from? A message from the headmaster to pupils on that bus may well inspire their entheusiasm to come forward as witnesses.

Driver's version of events should also be contradicted by the CCTV which most buses have these days. Did the bus company mention anything about this?

What are the police up to? Have they secured the CCTV footage? That's something they should have done immediately to ensure the bus company don't 'accidentally' erase it.

 

[400bhp]

Have you tried tracking down the school the kids were from? A message from the headmaster to pupils on that bus may well inspire their enthusiasm to come forward as witnesses.

Very good point.

Corrected your spelling BTW

I had my suspicions the cretin was going to tell a different version of events

 

[Angelfishsolo]

+1

Have you tried tracking down the school the kids were from? A message from the headmaster to pupils on that bus may well inspire their entheusiasm to come forward as witnesses.

Driver's version of events should also be contradicted by the CCTV which most buses have these days. Did the bus company mention anything about this?

What are the police up to? Have they secured the CCTV footage? That's something they should have done immediately to ensure the bus company don't 'accidentally' erase it.