biggs682
Touch it up and ride it
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Hamilton or Verstappen
So who's too blame ?
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biggs682
Touch it up and ride it
- Location
- Northamptonshire
I am blaming Hamilton
T.M.H.N.E.T
Rainbows aren't just for world champions
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Hamilton, he was P2 and P1 ended up eating the kitty litter
ClichéGuevara
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Hamilton tried for a gap that wasn't there, and under-steered to cause the collision. Verstappen had the line.
Should be points penalty to Hamilton.
Should be points penalty to Hamilton.
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biggs682
Touch it up and ride it
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10 second penalty is not much
ClichéGuevara
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biggs682
Touch it up and ride it
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- Northamptonshire
Certainly is
CanucksTraveller
Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
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- Hertfordshire
I don't care for F1 really but I'm flicking through several sports this afternoon and I'm still dying with laughter at catching Croft interviewing Otmar Szafnauer about the accident but losing audio for a second...
Otmar: "Can you hear me?"
Crofty: "Yes, I can hear you Clem Fandango".
Cue a confused Otmar.
🤣
Otmar: "Can you hear me?"
Crofty: "Yes, I can hear you Clem Fandango".
Cue a confused Otmar.
🤣
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
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Hamilton was almost level and Max knew he was there.
Max turned in when he knew it was a risk.
Max is a very aggressive driver, Hamilton isn’t a dirty driver.
I think 10 secs is fair. It’s a racing incident which both drivers could have easily avoided.
Max turned in when he knew it was a risk.
Max is a very aggressive driver, Hamilton isn’t a dirty driver.
I think 10 secs is fair. It’s a racing incident which both drivers could have easily avoided.
ClichéGuevara
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The 10 second penalty shows who the judges thought was at fault.
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Space Cadet...(3rd Class...)
If it's like my neck of the woods (witch you know well) it's the Open golf championships. Possibly one of the worst venues to get 40 odd thousands of people to down very narrow local lanes through a tiny little town.
Drago
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Hamilton.
At the point of impact Max was substantially ahead and pulling forward at a decent rate as he had the line, so the rules clearly defer to him in that scenario without any qualification. In that regard its quite clear cut.
It almost looks like Hamilton was deliberately steering into him, but I don't think thats the case. I suspect he was understeering, on the wrong, dirty line, with a late entry and apex so inevitably heading for an early exit, and was working the wheel a little to try and compensate.
One irksome thing is the level of punishment. While I'm sure it was not deliverate, it was nevertheless a serious impact for Verstappen. Aside from losing the championship leader the opportunity to win any points he has written off a rival teams car. I doubt much will be salvageable from that, and at a time of budget caps thats a big issue for teams as it then compromises the budget they have left for in season development, something which Red Bull do a lot of.
That being the case, the penalty should reflect the effect it had on the innocent party. He should have been disqualified, the only punishment that is commensurate with the effects of the crime.
He got off pretty lightly, all things considered.
At the point of impact Max was substantially ahead and pulling forward at a decent rate as he had the line, so the rules clearly defer to him in that scenario without any qualification. In that regard its quite clear cut.
It almost looks like Hamilton was deliberately steering into him, but I don't think thats the case. I suspect he was understeering, on the wrong, dirty line, with a late entry and apex so inevitably heading for an early exit, and was working the wheel a little to try and compensate.
One irksome thing is the level of punishment. While I'm sure it was not deliverate, it was nevertheless a serious impact for Verstappen. Aside from losing the championship leader the opportunity to win any points he has written off a rival teams car. I doubt much will be salvageable from that, and at a time of budget caps thats a big issue for teams as it then compromises the budget they have left for in season development, something which Red Bull do a lot of.
That being the case, the penalty should reflect the effect it had on the innocent party. He should have been disqualified, the only punishment that is commensurate with the effects of the crime.
He got off pretty lightly, all things considered.
