Took bike in for service ...first pedal stroke wrote off bike

[antnee]

Ok you only have two days off I can understand you want a good deal of that with family as did I, though a good part of my working life was spent away at weekends too. But please go back to the shop that you have used for the last few years and state your misgivings to the mechanic who did the work In my humble opinion if its not perfect its no good, plus you have paid so you can have time with your family instead of messing about in the cold doing an intricate job of threading cables though awkward holes.. You do have rights so please take it up with them at the LBS

 

[Teamfixed]

Where you stand legally? Trouble is the law is an ass!!! ...............................................

 

[bladesman73]

Once bitten and all that? I tried a local mobile mechanic last year, he hasnt done a very good job. Lesson learned, no 2nd chances when it comes to bikes. That's my advice.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

In my late teens I asked the bike shop owner for an outer gear cable. He handed me an outer brake cable. He asked me what the difference was when I pointed out his error.

I'd like to know as well please.

 

[Blue Hills]

I'd like to know as well please.

The wire strengthening pattern is entirely different - someone will will be along soon with more detail. If you use gear outer for your brakes you may not be long for this world..

 

[PaulSB]

The wire strengthening pattern is entirely different - someone will will be along soon with more detail. If you use gear outer for your brakes you may not be long for this world..

Thanks. Didn't know this.........I have all my work done by my LBS

 

[Deleted member 26715]

The wire strengthening pattern is entirely different - someone will will be along soon with more detail. If you use gear outer for your brakes you may not be long for this world..

I can understand inners being different but not outer, but if you can learn one thing a day you live to be a wise old man.

Thanks. Didn't know this.........I have all my work done by my LBS

Neither did I hence the question

 

[Teamfixed]

The big difference is that gear cable is thinner than brake cable.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

The big difference is that gear cable is thinner than brake cable.

Agreed but the statement was about outer, not inner

 

[Lookrider]

I can understand inners being different but not outer, but if you can learn one thing a day you live to be a wise old man.

Neither did I hence the question

And entirely what these chats are for..
Clear precise helpful info
I knew there were different but never knew why exactly

 

[Vantage]

Gear outer has round steel strands running parallel to each other. It prevents the cable compressing.

Brake outer has a flat strand which coils around and gives a bit of modulation or squishiness to the brakes.
I believe (I may be wrong on this) that outer cables were all the same prior to indexed gears.
I have seen an outer gear cable that is coiled specifically (often a tight bend) for the run between the derailleur cable clamp and the stop on the chain/seat stay. How the hell that works is beyond me.

 

[Dave Davenport]

I've used brake outers for gears a few times and it's worked fine, but I wouldn't do it the other way round.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Gear cable outer used for brakes can lead to brake failure without warning. It’s not designed for the compressive forces of braking.

 

[Dogtrousers]

The incompressible gear outers are, I think, a thing that emerged with indexed gears. I don't recall there being a difference in ye olde friction shift days ISTR I used the same cable housing for everything and didn't die.

Fussy indexed gears don't want any squish in the cable so the reinforcement runs longitudinally, with friction shifters it's all done by feel anyway.

But I think the problem is that longitudinally braced gear outers can't necessarily take the force of someone jamming the anchors on full.

 

[Lovacott]

Do you check gas fitter work in boiler.

No, but if my boiler had just been serviced and I smelled gas, I wouldn't light the cooker.