Why do so many people hate cyclists?

[theclaud]

Really? What an odd place you live in.

Do bicycles weigh so much or are in such a way that prevent you from moving them?

Are you using cycles left in door fronts as a counter argument for cars parking on pavements? Seriously.

We did establish that some years back...

 

[400bhp]

Anecdotal bollox but hey why not, use it to counteract other anecdotal bollox. I have never had an entrance to a shop blocked by a bicycle. If I did it must have been inconsequential (which of course it is) as it hasn't been imprinted on memory.

 

[Linford]

Anecdotal bollox but hey why not, use it to counteract other anecdotal bollox. I have never had an entrance to a shop blocked by a bicycle. If I did it must have been inconsequential (which of course it is) as it hasn't been imprinted on memory.

In the name of balance, Have you ever had issue with a shop being doorway blocked by a car ?

 

[400bhp]

In the name of balance, Have you ever had issue with a shop being doorway blocked by a car ?

Actually, yes Quite a few times actually. Happens quite a bit in towns where there is little to no pavement outside shops. often at delivery times.

It's a bit like saying have I ever been in a traffic jam on a motorway caused by a cyclist.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Perhaps you might ask the question...how often when it is ridden out is it left like that when they decide to nip into a shop....i'd wager fairly often.

How often do I see people dumping their bikes on the pavements blocking shop doorways...far too often Paul

Don't worry, I'd have a proper moan if I saw cars parked inconsiderately and obstructing shop doorways as well...I'll be sure to let you know if I ever see that.
You seem to see it as some sort of a God given right to do this with a cycle...because it is a cycle (correct me if I'm wrong)....unfortunately, pedestrians see it as another example of people on bikes sticking two fingers up to others around them.

So the answer to how many times have you seen a tricycle blocking the pavement is once. And you took a photo of it!

 

[snorri]

You are forgetting that motor vehciles are required to pay VED to use that space....

VED, don't you mean Road Tax? That was the tax that was paid by motor vehicle owners in order to pay for road construction and maintenance, but that tax was replace........oh why do I bother to tell you? you must know about this?

 

[Linford]

VED, don't you mean Road Tax? That was the tax that was paid by motor vehicle owners in order to pay for road construction and maintenance, but that tax was replace........oh why do I bother to tell you? you must know about this?

It is a license fee....I'll tell you what....ban all cars and charge all cyclists £230 per year to use the roads to make up the shortfall....oh hang on...that won't cover it because the road repair budget is actually more than they get from VED on its own...they also raise funds from fuel duty.....so instead of charging £230, that can be tripled to £690 per year

What...you don't like that idea ???? .... how about ban all cars, and charge the HGV's and delivery vehicles the cost so cycling can remain a free to use vehicle on the road transport network ?? ....no that won't work because it would be a tax on thepoor ..who would want to pay £20 for a can of baked beans ?

The bottom line is that cars need to be on the roads for cycling to remain a 'free at point of access' amenity.

Yes, we can all do without the ones who do stupid stuff when we share these spaces with them, but as long as there is a system in place which demonstrates that the road transport network is an amenity with has to be funded in the form of a license by some of its users, you will have to put up with the sense of entitlement that bring to those paying it...and the accusation that those who also use the amenity without a directly linked charge should also contribute for the upkeep of it !

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2914184, member: 45"]You're wrong, so I'll take up your offer and correct you.

I'll ask you another - how many tricycles have you ever seen?

And to answer yours, I can't remember the last time I came across a bike lying on a pavement. And if I had I'd have moved it.[/quote]


There was also a cycle on the pavement parked next to it from the person who had accompanied the trike user Paul...The point being made is that you cannot demand the removal of vehicular obstructions of something you don't favour for vehicular obstructions for something you do...in the case of the trike, it had completely blocked a space where it had no legal right to be...heaven forbid you might come across as being reasonable in this debate.....

 

[Linford]

Took photo a couple of days ago and then steered this thread in order to use it.

This thread is about people demanding that parked vehicles be removed from the carriageways...of course the billions of pounds made by LA's in parking fee's over and above whate the drivers are charged in VED and fuel duty means they are not just paying once,not twice, but three times in charges directly associated to running road vehicles in the UK...how many taxes do you or I pay to use a cycle in the same space whether cycling it or leaving it somewhere at the end of our journey ?

 

[Dan B]

The topic "Why do so many people hate cyclists?" seems to have morphed into "Why do so many people continue to engage with Linf": even after adding him to my ignore list, it remains straightforward to infer not only when he's posted but what he's most probably posted as well.

 

[sazzaa]

I find most non cyclists are pretty intolerant. I point out that I'm not intolerant of a car driver, as I am also one too.
I then ask if they cycle....when they say no, I ask them to give it a go and get back to me

I also take this approach, but usually get the response of "oh no it's way too dangerous!" Ehhh why's that then.....? Most people are morons, when you accept that fact, life becomes easier.

 

[ianrauk]

It is mystifying, the degree to which we, myself included, fall for what has to be the most blatant tolling.

And you do seem to take that little fishy bite every time

 

[sazzaa]

Yeah I know, I am even more disappointed in me than you are.

Sometimes (often) not responding at all has a much more satisfying effect.

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2914347, member: 1314"]Disclaimer:
I accept no liability for the content of this photo, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you intend to take the action illustrated in the photo it cannot be said that I am responsible. Such light-hearted damage to tin boxes on wheels is an invasion of a person’s most innermost soul. innit

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Whilst despising car users, you then come up with this rubbish....what is so wrong with a bit of live and let live ?

If I saw the amount of hostility on biker and car forums against cyclists which I see being vented frmo cyclists, I'd give them the same response as I'm giving to the unbalanced ones here....

 

[sazzaa]

[QUOTE 2914347, member: 1314"]Disclaimer:
I accept no liability for the content of this photo, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you intend to take the action illustrated in the photo it cannot be said that I am responsible. Such light-hearted damage to tin boxes on wheels is an invasion of a person’s most innermost soul. innit

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How pathetic.