Another pathetic dim witted tweeting driver...

[slowmotion]

Yes! Slowmotion, you are beginning to understand the hierarchy that is the reality of road use. Less of this egalitarian nonsense that we have an equal right to use the road going back centuries. (Is there an irony smiley?)

Perhaps the purchase price of the vehicle should be prominantly displayed alongside the number plate. Those of a lower value would be espected to pull over immediate when they saw Mr Moneybags approaching in their mirrors. High value bikes would of course be excluded from the arrangement because they "don't pay Road Tax".

 

[Mugshot]

I am genuinely interested in the subject of single file/two abreast riding. If you ask car drivers they all will claim that two abreast is an ignorant way to ride and not considerate of other road users. If you ask cyclists some will agree with this and some will not.
So a simple question: If two cyclists are riding two abreast does this, in your opinion, have any effect on a car driver's ability to overtake? If the answer is no, why do you think car drivers disagree?

No agenda here, a genuine question as two road user groups appear to have very different positions on this

My honest answer is that if one actually stops and thinks about the way in which a cyclist or cyclists should be overtaken then riding two abreast is certainly no worse and is often better for any overtaking vehicle, it is certainly perceived as being anti-social by drivers of motorised vehicles that much I agree with, it is however not, and I believe it is important that we behave on the roads in a manner which says "I am entitled to be here", the more gutter huggers there are the more things like riding two abreast are viewed as being cyclists taking the wee wee.

 

[Apollonius]

What a shame we don't count, Slowmotion. I was thinking my Bianchi Sempre would outrank quite a few bangers!

 

[Hip Priest]

I can understand why motorists get frustrated. They spend a small fortune to buy and run a vehicle which the adverts tell them will give them freedom and status, and then find that the reality is congestion, misery and expense.

Buy a bicycle madam.

 

[Drago]

It'd probably out drag my pickup quite easily! Indeed, any driver angered by a cyclist will be apoplectic when stuck behind me in my mighty pick up of slowness.

 

[benb]

I am genuinely interested in the subject of single file/two abreast riding. If you ask car drivers they all will claim that two abreast is an ignorant way to ride and not considerate of other road users. If you ask cyclists some will agree with this and some will not.
So a simple question: If two cyclists are riding two abreast does this, in your opinion, have any effect on a car driver's ability to overtake compared to riding single file? If the answer is no, why do you think car drivers disagree?

No agenda here, a genuine question as two road user groups appear to have very different positions on this

There may be a small number of roads, where single file cyclists can be safely overtaken, but double file ones cannot.
In those cases, I would go single file, and so would nearly all other cyclists I imagine.

Many drivers simply don't get it, and the reason is that they want to squeeze through at any cost, and single file cyclists are easier to do that to.

 

[Globalti]

But then again, she's only had a full driving licence for three months, as she helpfully informs the world (with a photo of her pass certificate) on another social networking site: http://ink361.com/app/users/ig-30022320/photos

Just done something I seldom do and looked at her page.... what is it with this vacuous person and pouting?

 

[nickyboy]

My honest answer is that if one actually stops and thinks about the way in which a cyclist or cyclists should be overtaken then riding two abreast is certainly no worse and is often better for any overtaking vehicle, it is certainly perceived as being anti-social by drivers of motorised vehicles that much I agree with, it is however not, and I believe it is important that we behave on the roads in a manner which says "I am entitled to be here", the more gutter huggers there are the more things like riding two abreast are viewed as being cylists taking the wee wee.

Whilst I don't agree with your statement that riding two abreast isn't antisocial I would suggest that the change in perception of other road users required is truly massive. I have never met a car driver who things anything other than it being selfish and antisocial.
Based on sheer weight of numbers, maybe the car drivers are right and the cyclists wrong on this matter? Just a thought. To truly understand a problem one has to be able to appreciate it from the other's perspective

 

[Mugshot]

I think much of it is due to ignorance rather then malice. I'm quite sure that many, perhaps even a majority of drivers believe that you shouldn't ride two abreast, that you should always use a cyclle path/lane if there is one available and that you should always hug the gutter. I'm convinced a massive campaign of education would help no end, I just can't see it happening.

 

[benb]

Whilst I don't agree with your statement that riding two abreast isn't antisocial I would suggest that the change in perception of other road users required is truly massive. I have never met a car driver who things anything other than it being selfish and antisocial.
Based on sheer weight of numbers, maybe the car drivers are right and the cyclists wrong on this matter? Just a thought. To truly understand a problem one has to be able to appreciate it from the other's perspective

Please explain what is antisocial about cyclists riding 2 abreast.

 

[Drago]

Nicky, how is it any more.anti social than.taking up 5 foot width of carriageway with a car?

It's a pathetic sexual inadequacy. An atavistic desire to dominate other people and a feeling of inadequacy and worthlessness when they are unable to do so.

 

[Apollonius]

OK, so did I, Globalti. She is just a school kid. Might need to think about responsibility for a tonne of killing metal though.

 

[Origamist]

Whilst I don't agree with your statement that riding two abreast isn't antisocial I would suggest that the change in perception of other road users required is truly massive. I have never met a car driver who things anything other than it being selfish and antisocial.
Based on sheer weight of numbers, maybe the car drivers are right and the cyclists wrong on this matter? Just a thought. To truly understand a problem one has to be able to appreciate it from the other's perspective

Surely, it's far more selfish and antisocial to drive a car with only one occupant than it is for two cyclists to ride side by side?

 

[Profpointy]

Perhaps the purchase price of the vehicle should be prominantly displayed alongside the number plate. Those of a lower value would be espected to pull over immediate when they saw Mr Moneybags approaching in their mirrors. High value bikes would of course be excluded from the arrangement because they "don't pay Road Tax".

well I paid twice as much for my car as my bike ! Mind you, the first owner of my car paid rather more

 

[slowmotion]

What a shame we don't count, Slowmotion. I was thinking my Bianchi Sempre would outrank quite a few bangers!

Look, you just have to know your place, OK?