Boxing Day flooding 2015

[shouldbeinbed]

What i have noticed from the news is that alot of buildings that are flooded are very old and this type of flooding is very new . The EA need to look at what they are doing as what they are doing now just isn't working ! It's not freak weather its the EA cutting costs where its needed but then spending the money on crap ideas to cover their arses .

An awful lot of the rivers and canals in the big northern towns and connurbated densley used urban landscape were the transport arteries until relatively recently, these areas are generally very well built up with old warehouses and repurposed buildings or demolished land reused and the rivers run through the hearts of the villages and towns in a channel/valley of buildings not natural rock. A months worth of rain in a day or so (pretty freaky to be fair) is only ever going to do one thing to the buildings and flat areas right next to it.

Many of our waterways are smaller and narrower and shallower than the likes of the Thames or Clyde etc once it hits the major urban conurbations, which makes their capacity to absorb so much water and runnoff from the Pennine hills much less. You can chuck a tennis ball from one side of the River Irwell to the other in the heart of Manchester, its not a big thing nor down in a deep gorge.

The picturesque pre industrial revolution cottage industry villages are victims of that too, I imagine even if the EA had a bottomless pit of money but had suggested a precautionary 5 foot high flood wall or massive diversionary works through the villages & the less urbanised areas that it would have met with howls of protest and a tremendous fight by the very people now suffering.

 

[Globalti]

Oh no! The Waterside Inn in Summerseat has gone down the river. I spent quite a large part of my salary on beer in there in the early 90s. Still, it's housed a string of failed restaurants since I moved away and it won't be missed.

 

[Levo-Lon]

Depressing viewing...

 

[Hill Wimp]

My favourite LBS, Woodrup Cycles, has been flooded judging by this video at 30 seconds in.



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And this picture

 

[Katherine]

So many homes and businesses affected by the floods are going to take a long time to recover or some, not at all.

 

[Cuchilo]

An awful lot of the rivers and canals in the big northern towns and connurbated densley used urban landscape were the transport arteries until relatively recently, these areas are generally very well built up with old warehouses and repurposed buildings or demolished land reused and the rivers run through the hearts of the villages and towns in a channel/valley of buildings not natural rock. A months worth of rain in a day or so (pretty freaky to be fair) is only ever going to do one thing to the buildings and flat areas right next to it.

Many of our waterways are smaller and narrower and shallower than the likes of the Thames or Clyde etc once it hits the major urban conurbations, which makes their capacity to absorb so much water and runnoff from the Pennine hills much less. You can chuck a tennis ball from one side of the River Irwell to the other in the heart of Manchester, its not a big thing nor down in a deep gorge.

The picturesque pre industrial revolution cottage industry villages are victims of that too, I imagine even if the EA had a bottomless pit of money but had suggested a precautionary 5 foot high flood wall or massive diversionary works through the villages & the less urbanised areas that it would have met with howls of protest and a tremendous fight by the very people now suffering.

But they dont need to be building five foot high walls they need to restart the dredging they stopped doing years ago and remove the five foot of sediment from the waterways .

 

[summerdays]

But they dont need to be building five foot high walls they need to restart the dredging they stopped doing years ago and remove the five foot of sediment from the waterways .

It's not as simple as that, they need to add in other measures that delay the time taken for the water to reach the water course, and make use of flood plains where appropriate to actually let them flood.

The quantity of water that has fallen is outside the normal predictable range, which s always going to cause problems but we need to manage the whole system better, and quit allowing developers to build over those flood plains. My friend has moved into a recently built house, and she has checked the height of her house on the development but some she said she wouldn't buy because they were too low/close to the river. Time will tell if she is alright, but if any flood she will be affected by increased insurance premiums for her postcode.

 

[MarkF]

I drove down Kirkstall Road about 7 last night, picking my lad up from him city centre work, the buses had been cancelled, it was a sorry sight. Going out for a canal walk now to Saltaire.................

 

[Tommy2]

I had to take a big detour through wetherby and eventually spofforth to get home from Leeds to harrogate yesterday at about 3 as harewood bank was closed, went back to Leeds through Linton.
But harewood bank was open again when we were coming back home to harrogate at 7 this morning although the river was extremely high you could see all the debris and 3 abandoned cars so it must have dropped a heck of a lot overnight.

 

[mjr]

But they dont need to be building five foot high walls they need to restart the dredging they stopped doing years ago and remove the five foot of sediment from the waterways .

Do you know that there is five foot, or might dredging recover as disappointing amounts as it reportedly did on the Somerset levels? And then we have the known effect of dredging, which is to accelerate water arriving in lower lying settlements like Leeds and York...

 

[The Jogger]

Well it's alleging to be okay now, the environment minister has just been on and she said they are going to have a review and there's more, Cameron is going to get off his mass and pay a visit tomorrow, sorted then. You can tell Windsor isn't in Yorkshire.

 

[Dec66]

Well it's alleging to be okay now, the environment minister has just been on and she said they are going to have a review and there's more, Cameron is going to get off his mass and pay a visit tomorrow, sorted then. You can tell Windsor isn't in Yorkshire.

Be fair. He sent a tweet yesterday.

 

[The Jogger]

Be fair. He sent a tweet yesterday.

Ooooops, sorry I missed that , " Just looking for the Hunters see you all Monday . "

 

[Moodyman]

Some would say it's God reminding us what he can do.

 

[Dec66]

Ooooops, sorry I missed that , " Just looking for the Hunters see you all Monday . "

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