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Can we keep it civilised please? Page 4 was starting to get a bit much.
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Can we keep it civilised please? Page 4 was starting to get a bit much.
As you were
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You should join the Brompton Electric group on Facebook, there have been plenty of people with problems, many requiring replacement motors or controllers. I personally know of one owner who after so many problems, rejected the bike and received a refund. The fact they still haven't got the promised app and Bluetooth connectivity sorted after all this time speaks volumes about their competence.
Apps and blueteeth don't interest me on an ebike, so their absence wouldn't stop me buying one.
The main reason this should have been a priority for them is that it would (if they've designed it properly) enable firmware updates without having to visit a dealer. The idea that in this day and age you need to book the bike in for a service at great inconvenience to yourself just to update firmware is just ridiculous.
As a general point, is there any need (or way) to update firmware in a closed system?
I run custom-built disc Bromptons and they survive fine. Issue is price at initial purchase. I suspect the perfectly good Brompton twin pivot rim caliper costs a fraction of what the TRP Spyre2 that I would consider to be minimum spec for cable-actuated disc brakes once you factor in having the discs as well.. Add in the costs of new hub designs, new fork and triangle tooling, and the associated costs of either migrating the whole range (to keep production simple) or the complexity of adding one or both brakes as build options. Not going to happen any time soon unless we get lucky. I love my disc Bromptons but they're a chunk wider than standard when folded as they use 100/135mm hubs... and I've done stoppies on rim braked Bromptons with the current caliper, carbon rims and Clarks carbon pads .... the rim brakes work fine....And tubeless rims!
While disc brakes could be great, although worry about the additional amount of crap they'd pick up being that bit lower down. Plus then, you really want to add through-axles, and perhaps Classified could do a 3-speed version of their hub gear, or just have an extra sprocket or two, and have electronic shifting. Would make rear-punctures less hassle on the side of the road.
Was this with a Brompton with modern brakes? The only situation ever where I've reached the limit of the Brompton Dual Pivots was running down a very (!) steep hill over a longer distance with a 30kg+ trailer attached - in this situation an emergency stop would not have been possible as the trailer pushed harder than the brakes could consume comfortably and constantly.I ran into the back of a car a couple of years ago simply because it was very wet and my my brakes had no stopping power.
Did you use them in the situation above, too? As they have not been on the market or popular for too long already I am wondering how this fits you "a couple of years ago".I run Swissstop BXP Blue too - so not the standard pads.
In case you have been running carbon rims with normal pads the reason is obvious: They are an improper match - there is a reason why there are special pads for carbon rims and still as far as I can judge carbon rims are not the best idea in combination with rim brakes. Brompton do however not have carbom rims from factory, so not much to complain...Carbon rims and pads are hardly 'normal' though.
Did you use them in the situation above, too? As they have not been on the market or popular for too long already I am wondering how this fits you "a couple of years ago".
In case you have been running carbon rims with normal pads the reason is obvious: They are an improper match - there is a reason why there are special pads for carbon rims and still as far as I can judge carbon rims are not the best idea in combination with rim brakes. Brompton do however not have carbom rims from factory, so not much to complain...
The old style brakes on my Brompton were poor in comparison with other push bikes I've ridden.
Although I've never ridden another 16" wheel bike, so I wonder to what extent the Brompton's little wheels restrict its braking ability.
I've done a handful of journeys on a Brompton with the latest brakes.
A worthwhile improvement, although still not up to the standard of a big wheel bike with hydraulic discs.
The wider tyres on my big wheel bikes may make the biggest difference.