Cycling UK Advice Coronavirus

[BigMeatball]

People don't want to stay indoors all weekend at the start of spring on a sunny day and unless you make them are not going to.

Fair enough, but if the advice from the government and nhs is to not go out and gather in big groups, then I don't understand why all these people are gathering and doing picnics in the park, or groups of 5-6 parents walking about with strollers, and groups of old people just chilling everywhere.

I understand social distancing can be stressful, especially when the weather starts getting nice, but if these people are not able to understand and follow simple advice given to avoid bigger problems, then I'm not going to say that I hope they catch the virus, but I'm not not going to say it either.

 

[lane]

Personally I am now timing my trips outdoors either walking or cycling when not many people are about. Won't be going out in a sunny Sunday afternoon again.

 

[mjr]

Personally I am now timing my trips outdoors either walking or cycling when not many people are about.

My ability to do this for groceries has been limited by long-opening shops closing early. Similarly, restriction of click and collect increases my exposure. I know both have reasons but this is not without drawbacks.

 

[lane]

Yeah not great what is the issue with click and collect

 

[mjr]

Yeah not great what is the issue with click and collect

Priority for NHS and vulnerable, I believe, combined with a surge in demand. Booked up 3 weeks ahead now.

 

[woodbutcher]

Wow! what a difference between the Uk and France ! Here there are no grey areas open to individual interpretation. For example no cycling is allowed whatsoever and that means individually or in groups. If you walk it must be within 2km of your home. When driving you must have signed and dated document stating your purpose so that the gendarmerie won't fine you (approx €135 per. incident) l know at least one person who was pulled over and fortunately he had the document with him.
The consequence of all this is that there isn't a soul about in our village or even in the nearby small town. All the bars are closed and only some of the food shops are open.
My gut feeling for what its worth is that we are in this for the long haul and until an effective vaccine has been developed (which is probably some way off) we will struggle to maintain normality for perhaps the next twelve months !
And since l live in France and am addicted to the TDF. it pains me to say that l won't be surprised if it doesn't happen this year. I just hope that l am wrong

 

[hoopdriver]

Social distancing on my morning ride, pictured on the seafront at Hastings. Fresh air and exercise is important - and so is staying healthy and being social responsible. It really isn't that big an ask to stay two metres apart. It would be nice if those who insist on socialising would get the message so we don't have to endure the type of lockdown they have in France. It really isn't that big an ask.

 

[woodbutcher]

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Social distancing on my morning ride, pictured on the seafront at Hastings. Fresh air and exercise is important - and so is staying healthy and being social responsible. It really isn't that big an ask to stay two metres apart. It would be nice if those who insist on socialising would get the message so we don't have to endure the type of lockdown they have in France. It really isn't that big an ask.

How right you are ! It amazes me when l speak to my relatives in England that the seriousness of the situation still hasn't dawned on them . They are quite shocked when l tell them how life has become very restricted here. I even had a close relative say "oh thats just typical of the French , they just love all that bureaucracy , form filling and officialdom" .Give me strength
Anyway nearly forgot , that is a beautiful photograph and it lifts my spirits, thanks !

 

[mjr]

Wow! what a difference between the Uk and France ! Here there are no grey areas open to individual interpretation. For example no cycling is allowed whatsoever and that means individually or in groups. If you walk it must be within 2km of your home. When driving you must have signed and dated document stating your purpose [...]

So anyone without a car living more than 2km from a food shop must pay for delivery, beg charity or starve?

Contrary to "no grey areas"... It looks clear in the current amended decree https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000041728476&categorieLien=cid that there is no discrimination against active travel - in other words, you could go to work or food shopping or medical centres by bike as validly as by car - so where is this "no cycling is allowed whatsoever" laid down? Could it be in the massive grey area of "Le représentant de l'Etat dans le département est habilité à adopter des mesures plus restrictives en matière de déplacement des personnes lorsque les circonstances locales l'exigent" / "The State representative in the district is empowered to adopt more restrictive travel measures for people if the local circumstances require it"?

I fear for France if its government is harming residents' health by restricting exercise so severely that few will persist, right at the time when the government should want everyone to be fighting fit, ready for possibly the fight of their lives against this virus.

 

[BigMeatball]

I fear for France if its government is harming residents' health by restricting exercise so severely that few will persist, right at the time when the government should want everyone to be fighting fit, ready for possibly the fight of their lives against this virus.

There's plenty of people in the world that live a long and happy life without doing one single minute of exercise.

Just because people like us like exercising and feel the benefits of it on our health, it doesn't mean that whoever doesn't exercise is going to suffer and/or die.

 

[pawl]

How right you are ! It amazes me when l speak to my relatives in England that the seriousness of the situation still hasn't dawned on them . They are quite shocked when l tell them how life has become very restricted here. I even had a close relative say "oh thats just typical of the French , they just love all that bureaucracy , form filling and officialdom" .Give me strength
Anyway nearly forgot , that is a beautiful photograph and it lifts my spirits, thanks !

Hate to say it but I have to agree.The attitude with a lot of people in this country appears to be pull up the ladder I’m alright Jack.When we are put into lockdown they will be all complaining about there individual rights Don’t these idiots realise that it has happened due to there attitude

 

[C R]

Hate to say it but I have to agree.The attitude with a lot of people in this country appears to be pull up the ladder I’m alright Jack.When we are put into lockdown they will be all complaining about there individual rights Don’t these idiots realise that it has happened due to there attitude

These people are never at fault for anything, in their own minds at least.

 

[matticus]

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Social distancing on my morning ride, pictured on the seafront at Hastings. Fresh air and exercise is important - and so is staying healthy and being social responsible. It really isn't that big an ask to stay two metres apart. It would be nice if those who insist on socialising would get the message so we don't have to endure the type of lockdown they have in France. It really isn't that big an ask.

An excellent photo (and an even better selfie-stick!)

 

[mjr]

There's plenty of people in the world that live a long and happy life without doing one single minute of exercise.

Just because people like us like exercising and feel the benefits of it on our health, it doesn't mean that whoever doesn't exercise is going to suffer and/or die.

Enough will to make a difference. Some people live long while smoking but it's still not a good idea for govt to encourage it.

 

[lane]

There is obviously a lot that would normally be encouraged but isn't at the moment - like going school. I don't think I will die if I don't ride my bike but might from the virus. I would still like to ride my bike in s responsible way - which after yesterday will be going out later on a weekday evenings not Sunday afternoon