Fuel duty cut will cost £500,000,000

[Linford]

And your population reduction program?

Stop at two - I did

 

[middleagecyclist]

I am a state worker - an RGN working as a Charge Nurse in a very busy A&E dept. As well as three yrs study to gain my RGN certificate and professional registration, I have a Diploma in Critical and Specialist Care, a BSc in Professional Health Care Practice, a huge number of other shorter courses and 22 yrs experience in acute medicine.

I make life saving decisions everyday at work, I teach staff, supervise junior nurses and doctors and work with patients and relatives at some of the most distressing points in their lives. I do the job because I love it. I don't do it because I get highly paid however I do expect a reasonable financial reward.

My basic salary is £30,460.00. On top of this I earn about £5000.00 pa for working almost every other weekend and a fortnight of night shifts every six weeks which throw my body clock out for the next week. I pay income tax and NI through PAYE and choose to pay extra into the NHS pension scheme - a scheme that I, and others, agreed to pay more into just four yrs ago which has now been unilaterally ripped up by this Government. I have never claimed an unemployment related benefit in my life.

Am I on the 'Gravy Train'?

 

[martint235]

Am I on the 'Gravy Train'?

Could you also for the sake of clarity please indicate if you are a supporter of the Agenda for Change? If you could indicate from both a pay perspective and also what you feel will be the affect on patient care?

 

[Alun]

I am a state worker - an RGN working as a Charge Nurse in a very busy A&E dept. As well as three yrs study to gain my RGN certificate and professional registration, I have a Diploma in Critical and Specialist Care, a BSc in Professional Health Care Practice, a huge number of other shorter courses and 22 yrs experience in acute medicine.

I make life saving decisions everyday at work, I teach staff, supervise junior nurses and doctors and work with patients and relatives at some of the most distressing points in their lives. I do the job because I love it. I don't do it because I get highly paid however I do expect a reasonable financial reward.

My basic salary is £30,460.00. On top of this I earn about £5000.00 pa for working almost every other weekend and a fortnight of night shifts every six weeks which throw my body clock out for the next week. I pay income tax and NI through PAYE and choose to pay extra into the NHS pension scheme - a scheme that I, and others, agreed to pay more into just four yrs ago which has now been unilaterally ripped up by this Government. I have never claimed an enemployment related benefit in my life.

Am I on the 'Gravy Train'?

Yes, you slacker! You should be producing widgets for export to China. Export or die! Don't you understand Linfordian economics?

 

[Linford]

Coincidentally

Handy that wasn't it

 

[middleagecyclist]

Could you also for the sake of clarity please indicate if you are a supporter of the Agenda for Change? If you could indicate from both a pay perspective and also what you feel will be the affect on patient care?

Agenda for Change (AfC) looked at both pay and condtions across the NHS. I supported it at the time. It brought a shared pay scheme between different groups of health care workers each of which had their own pay council. It has very little to do with direct patient care. The agreed rises we should have recieved were frozen for the last 2 yrs and we have been told we shall get just a 1% rise each yr for at least the next two yrs. We had already agreed to pay more into our pensions and now been told we have to work longer, pay more and receive less from our pensions.

Doesn't taste or feel like gravy.

 

[middleagecyclist]

[QUOTE 1911172, member: 45"]Not sure yet...

1. Are you Polish?
2. How long do we have before you do a moonlight flit with all the money we've given you?

[/quote]
Are you trolling?

 

[middleagecyclist]

[QUOTE 1911172, member: 45"]Not sure yet...

1. Are you Polish?
2. How long do we have before you do a moonlight flit with all the money we've given you?

[/quote]
No. I'm a Yorkshireman by birth. But what if I was a 'foreigner'? The NHS can't exist without the foreign professionals it employs. All of whom pay income tax and NI and spend a large portion of their income on goods and services in the UK.

Does it matter where some one is born? Most of the UK population comes from immigrant stock if you go back for enough. And what anyone does with the money they earn is really up to them isn't it?

 

[srw]

Agenda Doesn't taste or feel like gravy.

Lidl basic value gravy, perhaps?

 

[middleagecyclist]

Lidl basic value gravy, perhaps?

No. Not even basic value.

 

[Linford]

No. I'm a Yorkshireman by birth. But what if I was a 'foreigner'? The NHS can't exist without the foreign professionals it employs. All of whom pay income tax and NI and spend a large portion of their income on goods and services in the UK.

Does it matter where some one is born? Most of the UK population comes from immigrant stock if you go back for enough. And what anyone does with the money they earn is really up to them isn't it?

You jolly well tell him. He'll be calling you a racist next....

 

[martint235]

[QUOTE 1911222, member: 45"][/quote]

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 1911222, member: 45"][/quote]

That will teach you to parody me MrP

 

[middleagecyclist]

[QUOTE 1911212, member: 45"]No, sorry. It's carry over from the ongoing discussion with linford, who thinks that we should turn down foreign applicants -because they're only here for the money and will do one as soon as they've earned enough- in favour of a non-existent stock of suitable applicants who were born here.

I'm with you, that there are essential posts all over the NHS and that non-UK staff are critical in meeting need.[/quote]
Phew!

 

[middleagecyclist]

Now I've laid bare my qualifications, experience and income on the table who wants to seriously tell me I am on the gravy train?

Oh, and as well as having UK nursing registration I am an RN in both New Zealand and the USA. I had a green card in the US and a job lined up in Seattle (as did my wife) but we chose to stay in the UK on the birth of our child. We didn't chose to stay for the money or the lifestyle I can tell you.