More money than sense...

Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by marzjennings, 8 Feb 2018.

  1. MiK1138

    MiK1138 Über Member

    I guess if you want it can afford it then why not. I was talking to a relation I haven't seen in a while and he told me he just bought himself a Ferrari F40, he didnt need it but he wanted it. so fair do's
  2. MichaelW2

    MichaelW2 Über Member

    The frame is by Time, who knit their own carbon, it has sliding vertical rear dropouts which is a rare feature, as well as front mudguard eyelets on a high end carbon frame. The short wheelbase seat-tube cutout may do something...or not. The rear disk brake is is the wrong position for a utility bike that wears mudguards and panniers but I don't imagine I will see this one locked up at Aldi's on a rainy day. Ultra-prestige utility bikes are a logical disconnect even if they are very nice ones.
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  3. Tim Hall

    Tim Hall Guru

    All that aside, the chain guard is ugly. Really ugly. Burn it.
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  4. OP

    marzjennings Veteran

    I think that's my main gripe, it's a bike from a fashion house. I have no problem dropping over 10k on a new bike (other than having an available 10k), if it was a dream bike from a bike company.
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  5. As crazy as it sounds, if you sell bikes to 4 million people, some, just some, might be choosing on style over function. And their style might be based on abstract likes rather than practical or current trends. Crazy I know. It might even catch on elsewhere.
  6. Regulator

    Regulator Scourge of stale, pale, male snowflakes.

    Do you have to have been previously injured to get given one? :unsure:
    Last edited: 8 Feb 2018
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  7. OP

    marzjennings Veteran

    Afford is not the problem. It's the complete lack of technical value, zero craft and minimal componetry that bugs me. The price is at least double its worth because of the name on the frame.

    Generally the folks I know who spend huge amounts of money on things, cars, TVs, watches (sorry time pieces), genuinely believe they are getting the best of the best. And enjoy showing off why their hand built custom exotic materialed, bejeweled technical master piece is worth ten times my comparable POS. And all strength to em for that. But this, nothing. Other than the name. I guess I don't understand pure bling.
  8. youngoldbloke

    youngoldbloke The older I get, the faster I used to be ...

    Yes, they do - we've come full circle back to the post's title, 'More Money Than Sense'
  9. You've never bought anything that is supposedly better based on little other than the brand or how it looks? You buy all clothes at the lowest price seen at a market? You only buy the cheapest own brand product at supermarkets?
  10. Why? No one's forcing you to buy it. No one's even forcing you to look at it.

    If it bugs you, go look at something that doesn't.
  11. It is a truth that we hold to be self-evident:
    Anyone who pays more for a bike than I paid for my bike, has more money than sense.
    Anyone who pays less is wasting their money on tat.
    I, and I alone, know the sweet spot of good value.
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  12. BoldonLad

    BoldonLad Über Member

    South Tyneside
    ANY product or service (and that includes houses), is worth what people will pay, no more, no less.
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  13. youngoldbloke

    youngoldbloke The older I get, the faster I used to be ...

    How it looks has little to do with the brand. There is no reason good design must cost more, but I may pay more for better design. I buy very little based on brand. I do not buy clothing with logos. Why pay more to advertise on behalf of the brand? I try to buy the best quality within my budget, at the lowest price. For example when I buy long life skimmed milk I buy the 'budget' product - skimmed milk is skimmed milk is skimmed milk. Why pay double for the same product?
  14. So do you buy unbranded clothes at say M&S as opposed to the market which would be a 1/4 of the price? Do you think the M&S product is 4 times better? Will it last 4 times longer?
  15. youngoldbloke

    youngoldbloke The older I get, the faster I used to be ...

    I haven't bought anything from M&S for many years as while their quality has dropped the price has increased. Other budget clothing from ASDA, Tesco and the like has become highly competitive. I have not bought clothing from markets, but would if the product appeared to be of reasonable quality. Too often 'branded' products are of no better quality or design than unbranded - of course you could argue that M&S, George at ASDA etc have become or are being promoted as brands in their own right. I have NO brand loyalty.
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