Bad manners.

[swee'pea99]

No it has not. The bod who made that claim refuses to say who he's referring to.

On the contrary, I think he puts it very clearly:

"Cultural norm. I use that thought when at work where you're walking tbrough the busy entrance to the factory..and the door will almost NEVER be held open by the preceding person, because they're 99% east european. Its not personal, they dont hold the door for their own kind, its just not part of their thought process."

'who' is clearly the east europeans he works with. And as he says, this isn't about rudeness; it's about 'cultural norms'.

 

[glenn forger]

Eastern European doesn't mean Poles. East European is not a specific term. We don't know who he means and he refuses to say, but his main problem is extrapolating his limited personal experience and twisting the truth by claiming they behave like that BECAUSE they are eastern european. That's racist the same as saying people break the law BECAUSE they are black. Understand?

 

[Archie_tect]

The only time not holding a door open is a problem is when you follow someone through a pair of double doors that swing back and out at you- the force to stop their momentum is enough to knock an elderly or infirm person completely off their feet and getting fingers trapped is a problem for children. Saw both happen in M+S in Newcastle, though most door entries now have outward opening automatic doors so it's not as much of an issue.

[Edit: It wasn't M+S, it was Fenwick's]

 

[SD1]

I smell troll

Well I will wash then!

 

[SD1]

Eastern European doesn't mean Poles. East European is not a specific term. We don't know who he means and he refuses to say, but his main problem is extrapolating his limited personal experience and twisting the truth by claiming they behave like that BECAUSE they are eastern european. That's racist the same as saying people break the law BECAUSE they are black. Understand?

Which bod? Me or @gbb
" East European is not a specific term."
Why?

 

[SD1]

SD1, may I ask who you used to be before you joined CC as SD1- just curious.

Bert Weedon!
That's a weird question. Which cycling furom did you have in mind? Or was it my eBay name or.......Gis us a clue?

 

[SD1]

No it has not. The bod who made that claim refuses to say who he's referring to.

I thought it was Eastern Europeans?​

 

[Archie_tect]

SD1, I meant have you used a different CC identity with a different name on CC before you recently started contributing as 'SD1'? I appreciate you don't need to answer if you prefer not to and I wouldn't blame you!

 

[glenn forger]

I thought it was Eastern Europeans?​

So explain to me why you don't believe it is racist to slag off all eastern Europeans based on a few personal anecdotes. I expect you'll give a straight answer with no evasion.

 

[SD1]

I smell troll

PS "how about you lot" meant the Canadians and when/if they would get Smart Meters

 

[Globalti]

We are over-polite in Britain; I really dislike hearing the over-effusive "Cheers fanksalot mate!" afer I hold a door for someone or do some minor thing. A simple "thanks" or a nod and smile of acknowledgement would suffice.

 

[SD1]

SD1, I meant have you used a different CC identity with a different name on CC before you recently started contributing as 'SD1'? I appreciate you don't need to answer if you prefer not to and I wouldn't blame you!

Thorn I am a big fan of Rolhoff. Though you never know? Also on? Can't remember.

 

[SD1]

Bike radar. A bit boring.

 

[SD1]

So explain to me why you don't believe it is racist to slag off all eastern Europeans based on a few personal anecdotes. I expect you'll give a straight answer with no evasion.

I haven't slagged of Eastern Europeans...I don't think I did. Did I? And as a lot of people keep pointing out @gbb and a few others are talking about "cultural norms" which isn't really slagging them off.
Yet again it's xenophobia not racist. You are suggesting they are a different race that is racist.
I suspect the Queen would agree with me, although I haven't asked her.

 

[glenn forger]

I haven't slagged of Eastern Europeans...I don't think I did. Did I?

You denied it was racist to apply sweeping generalisations. Why? What makes you feel that isn't racist?