There were far too many motorbikes for my liking, a real life Stelvio ride must be deafening, fortunately in my garage it sounded like a Spotify playlist.
Strava cheats
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There were far too many motorbikes for my liking, a real life Stelvio ride must be deafening, fortunately in my garage it sounded like a Spotify playlist.
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
Really?? Or are you pulling my leg?
It is a Tacx film of the Stelvio climb playing on my old 32" TV via my laptop, it controls your trainer in sync with the film, all the traffic is visible but not heard, I was listening to Spotify streamed from my phone through an old Hifi set up that sounds great.
So no, I am not pulling your leg.
https://tacx.com/product/tacx-software/
Johnno260
Guru
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- East Sussex
I use Strava to compete against myself I don't give a rats about what others have done.
Soltydog
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- near Hornsea
Don't think anyone is ribbing those who use strava &/or Zwift, it's just the ones who cheat by whatever means
Training for something specific/competition I would imagine that they could be very useful tools, but reckon 90% of users are just general folk like myself using it for general fitness & a very small majority doing anything they can to get a KOM. I once looked at segments on Zwift & there's so many ways to cheat that, but some of the top times were over 100mph
Even riding indoors with no wind resistance on a turbo/rollers I doubt many if any cyclists could get close to 100mph without stupid gearing. Whilst spending an hour on Zwift earlier, think it was the Volcano KOM? 2.7miles ave gradient of 5% & the fastest time was 4 mins 7 secs (40mph ish) ???The next fastest times were all around the 8 min mark, so I suspect someone hasn't got some settings quite right somewhere 
Well, it appears to be intermingled in this thread and elsewhere. Some refer to cheating, as above, whilst others refer to Turbo rides of real world places as cheating too.Don't think anyone is ribbing those who use strava &/or Zwift, it's just the ones who cheat by whatever means
Training for something specific/competition I would imagine that they could be very useful tools, but reckon 90% of users are just general folk like myself using it for general fitness & a very small majority doing anything they can to get a KOM. I once looked at segments on Zwift & there's so many ways to cheat that, but some of the top times were over 100mph
You’re definitely right in the cheating bit though. Some fiddling going on for sure. I personally don’t see the point in that tbh.
huwsparky
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The main gripe people have with virtual rides as I make it out is recording it as milage, me included. I ride more indoors this time of year and don't record the milage as I don't want it to interfere with 'milage' total. How hard the workout has no bearing, it's a workout, not a bike ride.
I've had a few KOM's stolen over time (illegitimately), I've never flagged any of them, a few of them someone else must have flagged or the rides deleted as they seem to be back in my possession. I'm not really bothered either way personally.
MasterDabber
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- Surrey and the Lot in France
No VR ride should appear on real life segments. All VR rides should be defined as such when the ride is uploaded. There are VR only segments that may mirror RL segments but rides and times etc should always be totally separate. There's no excuse for the VR rider to screw up the RL segments.
Programs like BigRingVR will automatically upload their VR rides to Strava already defined as VR ride.
I have no problem with recording miles done on the turbo, last winter I rode Lejog from GPX files, I peddled all of the way no freewheeling as in real life, but no headwinds or tailwinds, I recorded it all as mileage done, probably slower than I would have been in real life.
I personally think that miles are miles, so would include any Turbo mileage @huwsparky.
I absolutely wouldn’t expect Virtual Rides to have any affect on real world segments though. That’s clearly not on. Is that even possible?
No different to riding a TT then
MasterDabber
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- Surrey and the Lot in France
Yes, it's possible if the ride isn't tagged as a Virtual ride.
Or someone changes the tag from Virtual ride to Ride
You'd need to tweak the model for wind resistance. Or would it matter, as everyone would be equally wrong.
MasterDabber
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- Surrey and the Lot in France
Yes, there are loads of segments which mirror real world segments plus there are imaginary virtual segments on Zwift.
